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Пост N: 230
ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 18.02.09 15:04. Заголовок: Norka (Норка, Вейганд) / Старая Норка (Bergseite)


ВНИМАТЕЛЬНО ПРОСМОТРИТЕ ПЕРВЫЙ ПОСТ И ВСЮ ТЕМУ, ПРЕЖДЕ ЧЕМ ЗАДАВАТЬ ВОПРОСЫ!!!

Уважаыемые участники, чьи предки родились и (или) жили в колонии Норка! Предлагаю максимально восстановить пофамильную состоавляющую истории села. Поскольку большинство семейных пар создавались в рамках одного населенного пункта, есть большая вероятность того, что у нас найдутся точки пересечений. Также будет здорово, если сможем найти фото села, помимо тех, что общедоступны и фото его жителей. Для удобства работы и для новичков помещаю следующие ссылки:

Страница о селе Норка на нашем сайте
http://wolgadeutsche.net/list/norka.htm<\/u><\/a>

Небольшой американский сайт о с.Норка
http://www.volgagermans.net/norka/<\/u><\/a>

Темы форума, где активно обсуждалось с. Норка и его жители

http://wolgadeutschen.borda.ru/?1-0-0-00000561-000-0-0-1230482846<\/u><\/a>

http://wolgadeutschen.borda.ru/?1-6-0-00000096-000-10001-0-1231090905<\/u><\/a>

http://wolgadeutschen.borda.ru/?1-19-0-00000002-000-0-0-1231527857<\/u><\/a>

По данным, полученным от Brent Mai по переписи 1834 года в Норке проживали следующие фамилии:

Adam Adolph Albert Albrecht Alexander Alt Arndt Aschenbrenner Bachmann Bäcker Bauer Bechtholdt Bertel Biehn Blum Bott Brehm Brill Burbach Deines Dick Diehlemann Dinges Döring Dörr Eberhardt Eberling Eisenhut Ernst Eusel Fechler Feuerstein Fink Fischer Fuchs Führer Gauer Geiss Gerlach Giebelhaus Glantz Göbel Görg Grün Hahn Hamburger Hammer Hardt Hartung Hechwaldt Heifneder Heinrich Helzer Henkel Henrich Herdt Hessler Hetwig Hoffmann Hohnstein Horst Huck Hügel Imhoff Jäger Jakobÿ Jost Kaiser Keller Kern Kiehn Kiemer Kilthau Kindsvater Kinzel Klaus Klehr Kleiber Kliss Kloberdanz Kniess Knippel Koch Kohler Kracht Krieger Kriess Lamm Lauterbach Lehl Lehr Liphardt Lofink Loos Lorei Maul Michael Mohr Mosebach Müller Nagel Nolde Palm Paul Paulÿ Pfeif Pfeifer Pfenning Popp Preisendorf Preiss Prester Reich Reichert Reifschneider Reiswig Repp Reuscher Richter Romeis Ross Ruppel Sauer Saurer Schäfer Scheidemann Schilling Schleicher Schleuning Schlitt Schmer Schmidt Schneider Schnell Schnor Schönemann Schreiber Schreiner Schwartz Schwindt Seider Sinner Spadÿ Spahn Spicker Störkel Stürtz Traudt Trüber Urbach Vögler Wacker Walter Weber Weidenkeller Weigandt Weisberger Weitzel Will Wolf Wörth Ziegler Zilg

По данным, полученным от Brent Mai по переписи 1857 года в Норке проживали следующие фамилии:

Adam Albert Albrecht Alexander Alt Arndt Aschenbrenner Bachmann Bäcker Bauer Bechtholdt Bertel Biehn Billing Blum Bott Brehm Brill Bruhn Burbach Deines Dick Diehlemann Dinges Döring Dörr Eberhardt Eberling Eisenhut Eusel Fechler Feuerstein Fink Fischer Fuchs Führer Gauerich Gerlach Giebelhaus Glantz Göbel Görg Grün Guio Haas Hahn Hamburger Hammer Hardt Hartung Hechwaldt Heifneder Heinrich Helzer Henkel Herdt Hessler Hoffmann Hohnstein Horst Huck Hügel Jäger Jakobÿ Jost Kaiser Keller Kern Kiehn Kilthau Kimern Kinzel Klaus Klehr Kleiber Kloberdanz Kniess Knippel Koch Krieger Kriess Kuhn Lamm Lehl Lehr Lingold Liphardt Lofink Loos Maul Michael Mohr Mosebach Müller Nagel Nolde Paulÿ Pfenning Popp Preisendorf Preiss Prester Reich Reifschneider Reiswig Repp Reuscher Richter Romeis Ross Ruppel Sauer Schäfer Scheidemann Schilling Schleicher Schleuning Schlitt Schmer Schmidt Schneider Schnell Schönemann Schreiber Schreiner Schwartz Schwindt Seder Sinner Spadÿ Spahn Spicker Störkel Stürtz Traudt Trüber Urbach Vögler Wacker Walter Weber Weidenkeller Weigandt Weitzel Will Wolf Wörth Ziegler Zilg

ВНИМАНИЕ! ПРЕДВАРИТЕЛЬНЫЕ ДАННЫЕ ПО ПЕРЕПИСЯМ МОГУТ БЫТЬ НЕТОЧНЫМИ ИЛИ НЕПОЛНЫМИ!

Переписи по Норке за 1815-1857 год имеются! оставляйте запросы, будем разбираться! Есть также доступ к части данных по переписи 1775 и 1811 (последняя учитывала только мужское население)

Пишите обо всем, что связано с селом Норка!

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Вячеслав



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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 09.11.08 19:55. Заголовок: hilfe1! Может, что н..


hilfe1!
Может, что нибудь для меня все таки найдете?

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Рудольф
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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 09.11.08 21:52. Заголовок: Фамилия Крафт в коло..


Фамилия Крафт в колонии Норка с 1767 г. и есть во всех переписях и ревизиях. Пфенинг в колонии Норка есть с 1798 г. и далее по всем ревизиям.

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silvester
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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 10.11.08 13:32. Заголовок: hilfe1 пишет: Вячес..


hilfe1 пишет:

 цитата:
Вячеслав

ну что мне делать, если для вас у меня нет ничего?


Скромничаете Марина.
Обложите данью татар в Казани,ведь там родился Николай Бауман,родственник Вячеслава,
глядишь и преподнесут Вам ключи от всех архивов.Ну а как их потрошить,не мне Вас учить.


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Viktor
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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 12.11.08 23:14. Заголовок: Рудольф, как можно ..


Рудольф,

как можно получить эту информацию и как долго надо ждать ?

с уважением
viktor

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Рудольф
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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 13.11.08 06:18. Заголовок: Viktor, что конкретн..


Viktor, что конкретно по фамилии Пфенинг Вас интересует? Только ревизии? За какие годы? Генеалогическое исследование рода с использовнием церковных записей? Пишите на E-mail или ЛС.

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Любовь



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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 13.11.08 13:00. Заголовок: Грассман (Grassmann)..


Грассман (Grassmann) Каспар колония Розенгейм ищу информацию

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Рудольф
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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 13.11.08 14:29. Заголовок: Любовь, какая наибол..


Любовь, какая наиболее ранняя информация о предках у Вас имеется?

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Natasza
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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 20.11.08 04:53. Заголовок: hilfe1 посмотрите ес..


hilfe1 посмотрите если не трудно Бауэр и Грин

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hilfe1
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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 20.11.08 20:43. Заголовок: Viktor Отправила ..


Viktor

Отправила вам древо. Сообщите о получении.

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viktor klein



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Hilfe1, извените за нескромность, можете посмотреть по трем фамилиям, Гесслер, Нагель и Вебер и подскажите по такому поводу,
я нашел у Б.Мая родословную по Михайлисам из Кратцке, мой прадед Адам Адамович родился в 2 октября 1866 года, до революции перебрасля в сибирь, но он все пересмотрел и не нашел его, может подскажете где искать?

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russ28
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Пост N: 85
ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 16.12.08 12:58. Заголовок: Престер/Брестер


hilfe1 пишет:

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Имею перепись 1834 г. по Норке. Могу посмотреть фамилии, кого какие интересуют



У меня вот какая история. Мои первые колонисты прибыли именно в Норку -
Prester Valentin, Ref., stocking maker from Isenburg, doc. No. 5021,
wife: Sibilla.
и
Prester Nicolaus, Ref., farmer from Hessen, doc. No. 5196,
wife: Maria Elisabeth, daughter: Catharina Elisabeth, 13.

в 1795-1796 из норки в Гримм перешли две семьи Престер, неизвестно как связанные между собой
Johann Friedrich Prester *1766 (kam 1795 aus Norka)
Magdalena Tiede *1776
Kinder: Johann Konrad *1795
Jakob Peter *1798

и
Brester Conrad 1775
Fr.Maria Catharina

Разобраться где потомки Николауса, а где Валентина судя по всему невозможно. Но мне бы хотелось знать, остались ли Престеры в Норке? Судя по тому, что в 19 веке в конце они там были, значит кто-то остался. Не могли бы Вы посмотреть фамилии Престер/Брестер. В частности персон, указанных мною как первых поселенцев.
Буду очень признателен!!!


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annuschka



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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 16.12.08 21:37. Заголовок: Посмотрите Фам. Паул..


Посмотрите Фам. Паули Јоханнес. Спасибо.

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hilfe1
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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 17.12.08 18:21. Заголовок: Natasza Bauer Joha..


Natasza

Bauer Johann Georg b. Abt 1735, Isenburg, Hesse/Germany; d. Abt 1766, Norka, Samara Province, Russia.
Johann m. Louise Elisabeth Abt 1758, Isenburg, Hesse/Germany. Louise b. Abt 1735, Isenburg, Hesse/Germany; d. Abt 1766, Norka, Samara Province, Russia.

Children:

2. Bauer Johann Tomas b. 1758, Isenburg, Hesse/Germany; d. 1824, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
3. Bauer Johann Georg b. 1761, Isenburg, Hesse/Germany.



Generation: 2

Bauer Johann Tomas (1.Johann1) b. 1758, Isenburg, Hesse/Germany; d. 1824, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
Johann m. Albrecht Maria Elisabeth Abt 1788, Norka, Samara Province, Russia. Maria b. 10 Dec 1769, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 26 Mar 1842, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Children:

4. Bauer Johannes b. 1789, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 1823, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
5. Bauer Christina Elisabeth b. 1790, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1865, Saratov Province, Russia.
6. Bauer Rosine b. 1792, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1867, Saratov Province, Russia.
7. Bauer Johann Georg b. 1794, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 1799, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
8. Bauer Christian b. 1796, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 1865, Norka, Samara Province, Russia.
9. Bauer Peter b. 1798, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1852, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
10. Bauer Phillip b. 1802, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1880, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
11. Bauer Ludwig b. 1807, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1871, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
12. Bauer Johann Georg b. 15 Feb 1805, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 11 Feb 1852, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
13. Bauer Heinrich b. 1811, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1821, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.


Bauer Johann Georg (1.Johann1) b. 1761, Isenburg, Hesse/Germany.


Generation: 3

Bauer Johannes (2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1789, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 1823, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Bauer Christina Elisabeth (2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1790, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1865, Saratov Province, Russia.

Bauer Rosine (2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1792, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1867, Saratov Province, Russia.

Bauer Johann Georg (2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1794, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 1799, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Bauer Christian (2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1796, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 1865, Norka, Samara Province, Russia.

Bauer Peter (2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1798, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1852, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Bauer Phillip (2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1802, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1880, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Bauer Ludwig (2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1807, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1871, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Bauer Johann Georg (2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 15 Feb 1805, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 11 Feb 1852, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
Johann m. Doring Amalie Abt 1828, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia. Amalie b. 27 Sep 1808, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 11 Jan 1877, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Children:

14. Bauer Christina b. 1829, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1871, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
15. Bauer Adam b. 29 Jun 1831, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 19 Jun 1896, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
16. Bauer Magdalena b. 1834, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1909.
17. Bauer Johann Georg b. 1837, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1907.
18. Bauer Johann Philipp b. 1839, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1851, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
19. Bauer Catharina Elisabeth b. 1841, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1916.
20. Bauer Heinrich b. 1844, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1844, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
21. Bauer Christian b. 1845, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1915.
22. Bauer Christina b. 1847, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1922.
23. Bauer Johann Georg b. 1850, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1920.


Bauer Heinrich (2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1811, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1821, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.


Generation: 4

Bauer Christina (12.Johann3, 2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1829, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1871, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Bauer Adam (12.Johann3, 2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 29 Jun 1831, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 19 Jun 1896, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
Adam m. Biehn Catharina Margaretha 08 Feb 1866, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia. Catharina (daughter of Biehn Johann Georg and Doring Anna Maria) b. 06 May 1844, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1919.

Children:

24. Bauer Heinrich Peter b. 15 May 1872, Noka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1942.
25. Bauer Conrad b. 26 Jul 1874, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1944.
26. Bauer Catharina Margaretha b. 10 Sep 1885, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 08 Feb 1886, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.


Bauer Magdalena (12.Johann3, 2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1834, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1909.

Bauer Johann Georg (12.Johann3, 2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1837, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1907.

Bauer Johann Philipp (12.Johann3, 2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1839, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1851, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Bauer Catharina Elisabeth (12.Johann3, 2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1841, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1916.

Bauer Heinrich (12.Johann3, 2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1844, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1844, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Bauer Christian (12.Johann3, 2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1845, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1915.

Bauer Christina (12.Johann3, 2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1847, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1922.

Bauer Johann Georg (12.Johann3, 2.Johann2, 1.Johann1) b. 1850, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1920.



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hilfe1
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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 17.12.08 18:23. Заголовок: Natasza Generation..


Natasza

Generation: 1

Bauer Jacob b. 1733, Isenburg, Hesse/Germany; d. 1808, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
Jacob m. Weber Catharina Abt 1777, Norka, Samara Province, Russia. Catharina b. Abt 1750, Isenburg, Hesse/Germany; d. Abt 1825, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
Children:

2. Bauer Magdalena b. 1778, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 1855, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
3. Bauer Catharina b. 08 May 1785, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 21 Jan 1841, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
4. Bauer Johann Yost b. 1787, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 1862, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.



Generation: 2

Bauer Magdalena (1.Jacob1) b. 1778, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 1855, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Bauer Catharina (1.Jacob1) b. 08 May 1785, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 21 Jan 1841, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
Catharina m. Koehler Conrad 14 Feb 1805, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia. Conrad (son of Koehler Johannes and Wagner Katarina) b. 18 Nov 1788, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 06 Jun 1854, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Children:

5. Koehler Johann Georg b. 1805, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1890, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
6. Koehler Yost b. 25 Apr 1808, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 19 Aug 1860, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
7. Koehler Johannes b. 1812, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1820, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.


Bauer Johann Yost (1.Jacob1) b. 1787, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 1862, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.


Generation: 3

Koehler Johann Georg (3.Catharina2, 1.Jacob1) b. 1805, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1890, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Koehler Yost (3.Catharina2, 1.Jacob1) b. 25 Apr 1808, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 19 Aug 1860, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
Yost m. Brill Christina 08 Feb 1827, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia. Christina b. 15 Nov 1807, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 24 Jan 1860, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Children:

8. Koehler Conrad b. 12 Jan 1831, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 08 Mar 1899, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
9. Koehler Heinrich b. 1833, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1903.
10. Koehler Adam b. 1836, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1836, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
11. Koehler Peter b. 1839, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1913.
12. Koehler Johannes b. 1842, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1912.
13. Koehler Catharina Elisabeth b. 1845, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1848, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
14. Koehler Catharina b. 1848, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1923.
15. Koehler Anna Maria b. 1853, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1928.


Koehler Johannes (3.Catharina2, 1.Jacob1) b. 1812, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1820, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.


Generation: 4

Koehler Conrad (6.Yost3, 3.Catharina2, 1.Jacob1) b. 12 Jan 1831, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 08 Mar 1899, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
Conrad m. Glantz Anna Maria 27 Jan 1853, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia. Anna b. 01 Jul 1832, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 02 May 1861, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Children:

16. Koehler Catharina Elisabeth b. 23 Jan 1854, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1915, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
17. Koehler Heinrich b. 01 May 1855, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1925.
18. Koehler Elisabeth b. 03 Sep 1856, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1931.
19. Koehler Johannes b. 10 Mar 1859, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1929.


Koehler Heinrich (6.Yost3, 3.Catharina2, 1.Jacob1) b. 1833, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1903.

Koehler Adam (6.Yost3, 3.Catharina2, 1.Jacob1) b. 1836, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1836, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Koehler Peter (6.Yost3, 3.Catharina2, 1.Jacob1) b. 1839, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1913.

Koehler Johannes (6.Yost3, 3.Catharina2, 1.Jacob1) b. 1842, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1912.

Koehler Catharina Elisabeth (6.Yost3, 3.Catharina2, 1.Jacob1) b. 1845, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1848, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Koehler Catharina (6.Yost3, 3.Catharina2, 1.Jacob1) b. 1848, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1923.

Koehler Anna Maria (6.Yost3, 3.Catharina2, 1.Jacob1) b. 1853, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1928.




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Natasza

Generation: 1

Bauer Thomas b. Abt 1719, Hesse/Germany; d. Abt 1789.
Thomas m. Elisabeth Abt 1745, Hesse/Germany. Elisabeth b. 1720, Hesse/Germany; d. Abt 1795. [Group Sheet]

Children:

2. Bauer Anna Catharina b. 1747, Hesse/Germany; d. Abt 1798, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
3. Bauer Georg b. Abt 1760, Hesse/Germany; d. Abt 1830.



Generation: 2

Bauer Anna Catharina (1.Thomas1) b. 1747, Hesse/Germany; d. Abt 1798, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
Anna m. Hamburger Johannes Abt 1768, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia. Johannes b. 1744, Hesse/Germany; d. Abt 1798, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Children:

4. Hamburger Christina b. 1770, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1845, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
5. Hamburger Louisa Maria b. Abt 1771, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1846, Saratov Province, Russia.
6. Hamburger Catharina b. 1773, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1848, Saratov Province, Russia.
7. Hamburger Philipp b. 1775, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 1830, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
8. Hamburger Anna Maria b. 1777, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1778, Norka, Samara Province, Russia.
9. Hamburger Anna Maria b. 1779, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1854, Saratov Province, Russia.


Bauer Georg (1.Thomas1) b. Abt 1760, Hesse/Germany; d. Abt 1830.


Generation: 3

Hamburger Christina (2.Anna2, 1.Thomas1) b. 1770, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1845, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Hamburger Louisa Maria (2.Anna2, 1.Thomas1) b. Abt 1771, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1846, Saratov Province, Russia.

Hamburger Catharina (2.Anna2, 1.Thomas1) b. 1773, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1848, Saratov Province, Russia.

Hamburger Philipp (2.Anna2, 1.Thomas1) b. 1775, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 1830, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
Philipp m. Huck Elisabeth Abt 1798, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia. Elisabeth (daughter of Huck Johannes and Kratesberger Anna Maria) b. 1777, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. 04 Mar 1852, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Children:

10. Hamburger Adam b. 1802, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1872, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
11. Hamburger Philipp b. 27 Mar 1804, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1874, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
12. Hamburger Heinrich b. 1806, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1876, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
13. Hamburger Johannes b. 1808, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1856, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.


Hamburger Anna Maria (2.Anna2, 1.Thomas1) b. 1777, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1778, Norka, Samara Province, Russia.

Hamburger Anna Maria (2.Anna2, 1.Thomas1) b. 1779, Norka, Samara Province, Russia; d. Abt 1854, Saratov Province, Russia.


Generation: 4

Hamburger Adam (7.Philipp3, 2.Anna2, 1.Thomas1) b. 1802, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1872, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Hamburger Philipp (7.Philipp3, 2.Anna2, 1.Thomas1) b. 27 Mar 1804, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1874, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
Philipp m. Unknown Abt 1835, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia. b. Abt 1807, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1845, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
Children:

14. Hamburger Christina b. 12 Nov 1836, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1911.
15. Hamburger Anna Maria b. 27 Dec 1838, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1913.
16. Hamburger Catharina b. 18 Dec 1841, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1916.
17. Hamburger Philipp b. 29 May 1845, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1915.

Philipp m. Jacoby Anna Catharina 23 Mar 1846, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia. Anna b. 14 Apr 1807, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1882, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Children:

18. Hamburger Elisabeth b. 17 Jun 1847, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 12 Oct 1851, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.
19. Hamburger Margaretha b. 05 Jul 1849, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 22 Dec 1857, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.


Hamburger Heinrich (7.Philipp3, 2.Anna2, 1.Thomas1) b. 1806, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. Abt 1876, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.

Hamburger Johannes (7.Philipp3, 2.Anna2, 1.Thomas1) b. 1808, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia; d. 1856, Norka, Saratov Province, Russia.


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Здравствуйте! А эти Гамбургер тоже в Америку все уехали, или всё время проживали в Норке? И имеется ли пятое генерацион??? Я полагаю, что они мои, вот только связующего звена нет......Сердечно благодарю!!!

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1. Christina HAMBURGER (Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 1770 in Norka, Russia. She married Johann Konrad FAUST 1789 in Norka, Russia. He was born 1771 in Kutter, Russia.


Children of Christina HAMBURGER and Johann Konrad FAUST are:
2 i. Johann Melchior FAUST was born 1793.
3 ii. Philipp FAUST was born 1795.
4 iii. Anna Katharina FAUST was born 1798.

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1. Katarina HAMBURGER (Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 1773 in Norka, Russia. She married Johannes WAGNER. He was born 1772 in Kutter, Russia.


Children of Katarina HAMBURGER and Johannes WAGNER are:
2 i. Johann Heinrich WAGNER was born 1797.
3 ii. Barbara WAGNER was born 1795.

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1. Philipp HAMBURGER (Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 1775 in Norka, Russia, and died 1830 in Norka, Russia. He married Elizabeth HUCK. She was born 23 NOV 1777, and died 4 MAR 1852 in Norka, Russia.


Children of Philipp HAMBURGER and Elizabeth HUCK are:
2 i. Adam HAMBURGER was born 21 SEP 1802 in Norka, Russia. He married Magdlena KUHN 22 JAN 1825 in Norka, Russia. She was born 18 MAR 1806, and died 1 APR 1847 in Norka, Russia.
+ 3 ii. Philipp HAMBURGER was born 27 MAR 1804 in Norka, Russia, and died in Norka, Russia.
+ 4 iii. Heinrich HAMBURGER was born 11 AUG 1806 in Norka, Russia, and died in Norka, Russia.
+ 5 iv. Johannes HAMBURGER was born 15 MAR 1808 in Norka, Russia, and died 5 MAY 1856 in Norka, Russia.


Descendant Register, Generation No. 2

3. Philipp HAMBURGER (Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 27 MAR 1804 in Norka, Russia, and died in Norka, Russia. He married Katharina GRUN 23 MAR 1846. She was born 14 APR 1807 in Jakoby, Russia, and died in Norka, Russia.


Children of Philipp HAMBURGER and Katharina GRUN are:
+ 6 i. Anna Maria HAMBURGER was born 12 DEC 1838 in Norka, Russia.
7 ii. Katharina HAMBURGER was born 12 DEC 1841.
8 iii. Elizabeth HAMBURGER was born 17 JUN 1847.
9 iv. Margaretha HAMBURGER was born 5 JUL 1849.
10 v. Philipp HAMBURGER was born 23 MAY 1845.
+ 11 vi. Christina HAMBURGER was born 12 NOV 1836


4. Heinrich HAMBURGER (Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 11 AUG 1806 in Norka, Russia, and died in Norka, Russia. He married Katharina Maria MENG. She was born in Messer, Russia, and died in Norka, Russia.


Children of Heinrich HAMBURGER and Katharina Maria MENG are:
12 i. Anna Maria HAMBURGER was born 9 JUL 1830 in Norka, Russia.
13 ii. Johannes HAMBURGER was born 26 MAY 1832.
14 iii. Heinrich HAMBURGER was born 23 MAY 1835.
15 iv. Georg HAMBURGER was born 3 DEC 1837.
16 v. Christina Elizabeth HAMBURGER was born 20 MAR 1841.
17 vi. Jakob HAMBURGER was born 9 NOV 1843.
+ 18 vii. Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau) was born 23 MAY 1846 in Norka, Russia, and died in Neu Norka, Russia.
19 viii. Johann Heinrich HAMBURGER was born 17 NOV 1849 in Norka, Russia, and died 27 OCT 1851 in Norka, Russia.


5. Johannes HAMBURGER (Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 15 MAR 1808 in Norka, Russia, and died 5 MAY 1856 in Norka, Russia. He married Katharina SCHREINER. She was born 2 FEB 1808.


Children of Johannes HAMBURGER and Katharina SCHREINER are:
20 i. Margaretha HAMBURGER was born 24 FEB 1850.
21 ii. Christina HAMBURGER was born 20 JUL 1852.
22 iii. Katharina HAMBURGER was born 12 APR 1833.
+ 23 iv. Philipp HAMBURGER was born 9 SEP 1826 in Norka, Russia.
24 v. Jakob HAMBURGER was born 22 APR 1846.
25 vi. Christina HAMBURGER was born 16 JUN 1830.
+ 26 vii. Magdalena HAMBURGER was born 10 OCT 1835 in Norka, Russia.
27 viii. Louise HAMBURGER was born 7 SEP 1840.
+ 28 ix. Elizabeth HAMBURGER was born 22 MAY 1844 in Norka, Russia, and died 13 DEC 1868 in Norka, Russia.


Descendant Register, Generation No. 3

6. Anna Maria HAMBURGER (Philipp HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 12 DEC 1838 in Norka, Russia. She married Martin SCHEIDEMANN 29 JAN 1857 in Norka, Russia. He was born 6 NOV 1830.


Children of Anna Maria HAMBURGER and Martin SCHEIDEMANN are: 29 i. Anna Maria SCHEIDEMANN was born 24 FEB 1858 in Norka, Russia, and died 22 NOV 1858 in Norka, Russia.
30 ii. Louise SCHEIDEMANN was born 9 JAN 1860.


11. Christina HAMBURGER (Philipp HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 12 NOV 1836. She married George Heinrich GRUN 24 JAN 1856 in Norka, Russia. He was born 2 OCT 1836.


Children of Christina HAMBURGER and George Heinrich GRUN are:
31 i. Heinrich GRUN was born 7 OCT 1856.
32 ii. Anna Maria GRUN was born 2 NOV 1858.


18. Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau) (Heinrich HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 23 MAY 1846 in Norka, Russia, and died in Neu Norka, Russia. He married Elizabeth KUHN (Rau).


Child of Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau) and Elizabeth KUHN (Rau) is:
+ 33 i. Henry HUMBARGER (Rau) was born 1 JAN 1875 in Neu Norka, Schutka/Balzer, Saratov, Russia, and died 21 MAR 1955 in Herington, Kansas.


23. Philipp HAMBURGER (Johannes HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 9 SEP 1826 in Norka, Russia. He married Rosina YODER 13 JAN 1848 in Norka, Russia. She was born 10 MAR 1827 in Norka, Russia.


Children of Philipp HAMBURGER and Rosina YODER are:
34 i. Adam HAMBURGER was born 16 SEP 1850.
35 ii. Heinrich HAMBURGER was born 25 JAN 1853.
36 iii. Johannes HAMBURGER was born 18 FEB 1855.
37 iv. Christina HAMBURGER was born 1 NOV 1848.
38 v. Louise HAMBURGER was born 10 APR 1869.


26. Magdalena HAMBURGER (Johannes HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 10 OCT 1835 in Norka, Russia. She married Heinrich MAUL 29 JAN 1857 in Norka, Russia. He was born 2 FEB 1835 in Norka, Russia.


Child of Magdalena HAMBURGER and Heinrich MAUL is:
39 i. Elizabeth MAUL was born 6 JAN 1858.


28. Elizabeth HAMBURGER (Johannes HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 22 MAY 1844 in Norka, Russia, and died 13 DEC 1868 in Norka, Russia. She married Johannes TRAUDT 16 FEB 1865 in Norka, Russia. He was born 14 MAR 1842.


Children of Elizabeth HAMBURGER and Johannes TRAUDT are:
40 i. Katharina TRAUDT was born 23 MAY 1866.
41 ii. Anna Margaretha TRAUDT was born 12 MAY 1868.


Descendant Register, Generation No. 4

33. Henry HUMBARGER (Rau) (Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau)4, Heinrich HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 1 JAN 1875 in Neu Norka, Schutka/Balzer, Saratov, Russia, and died 21 MAR 1955 in Herington, Kansas. He married Elizabeth RAU (RAU) 9 FEB 1902 in Kamyshin, Russia, daughter of Johan Peter RAU and Elizabeth EISELE (Rau). She was born 21 MAR 1882 in Neu Norka, Schutka/Balzer, Saratov, Russia, and died 8 JUL 1959 in Lakewood, California.


Children of Henry HUMBARGER (Rau) and Elizabeth RAU (RAU) are:
42 i. Marie HUMBARGER (Rau) was born 17 MAR 1906 in Neu Norka, Schutka/Balzer, Saratov, Russia, and died 1 SEP 1907 in Manzanola, Colorado.
+ 43 ii. Katherine HUMBARGER (Rau) was born 17 DEC 1908 in Herington, Kansas.
+ 44 iii. Alexander HUMBARGER (Rau) was born 27 OCT 1910 in Herington, Kansas.
+ 45 iv. Martha HUMBARGER (Rau) was born 5 FEB 1913 in Herington, Kansas, and died 6 MAR 1998 in Bethany, Oklahoma.
+ 46 v. Elizabeth HUMBARGER (Rau) was born 27 MAR 1915 in Herington, Kansas.
+ 47 vi. Henry HUMBARGER (Rau) was born 16 FEB 1917 in Herington, Kansas, and died 19 SEP 1989 in Topeka, Kansas.
48 vii. Anna Marie HUMBARGER (Rau) was born 10 FEB 1922 in Herington, Kansas. She married Wilhelm Fritz NEILSON 9 MAR 1941 in Junction City, Kansas. He was born 18 JAN 1916 in Junction City, Kansas, and died 21 APR 1970 in Wofford Heights, California. She married Stanley Ellison BRIDGE (Rau) 19 MAR 1965 in Las Vagas, Nevada. He was born 3 MAR 1929 in Highland Park, Michigan.


Descendant Register, Generation No. 5

43. Katherine HUMBARGER (Rau) (Henry HUMBARGER (Rau)5, Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau)4, Heinrich HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 17 DEC 1908 in Herington, Kansas. She married John ENGLE 14 APR 1924 in Abilene, Kansas. He was born 1 APR 1900 in Argentina, S. America. She married Doyle BUFFINGTON (Rau) 22 DEC 1944 in Los Angeles, California. He was born 11 OCT 1912.


Child of Katherine HUMBARGER (Rau) and John ENGLE is:
49 i. Patricia Ann ENGLE was born 5 DEC 1921.


44. Alexander HUMBARGER (Rau) (Henry HUMBARGER (Rau)5, Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau)4, Heinrich HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 27 OCT 1910 in Herington, Kansas. He married Blanche HUTCHISON (Rau) 2 JUN 1934 in Herington, Kansas. She was born 2 OCT 1915 in Baxter Springs, Kansas.


Children of Alexander HUMBARGER (Rau) and Blanche HUTCHISON (Rau) are:
50 i. Living HUMBARGER.
51 ii. Living HUMBARGER.
52 iii. Living HUMBARGER.
53 iv. Living HUMBARGER.


45. Martha HUMBARGER (Rau) (Henry HUMBARGER (Rau)5, Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau)4, Heinrich HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 5 FEB 1913 in Herington, Kansas, and died 6 MAR 1998 in Bethany, Oklahoma. She married Elmer B OLSON (Rau) 10 APR 1929 in Salina, Kansas. He was born 29 MAY 1905 in Lincolnville, Kansas, and died 22 JUL 1985 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.


Children of Martha HUMBARGER (Rau) and Elmer B OLSON (Rau) are:
+ 54 i. Living OLSON.
+ 55 ii. Living OLSON.
+ 56 iii. Living OLSON.


46. Elizabeth HUMBARGER (Rau) (Henry HUMBARGER (Rau)5, Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau)4, Heinrich HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 27 MAR 1915 in Herington, Kansas. She married Clifford PETERSON (Rau) 13 JUL 1940. He was born 4 MAY 1914 in Burdick, Kansas.


Children of Elizabeth HUMBARGER (Rau) and Clifford PETERSON (Rau) are:
+ 57 i. Living PETERSON.
+ 58 ii. Living PETERSON.


47. Henry HUMBARGER (Rau) (Henry HUMBARGER (Rau)5, Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau)4, Heinrich HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1) was born 16 FEB 1917 in Herington, Kansas, and died 19 SEP 1989 in Topeka, Kansas. He married Velma ALBRECHT (Rau) 30 JUN 1941 in Herington Kansas. She was born 18 JUL 1920.


Children of Henry HUMBARGER (Rau) and Velma ALBRECHT (Rau) are:
59 i. Living HUMBARGER. He married Living ALLEN.
60 ii. Living HUMBARGER. She married Living LAWRENCE.
61 iii. Living HUMBARGER. He married Alane STORK. She was born 13 JUL 1050 in Topeka, Kansas.
62 iv. Living HUMBARGER. He married Living O'ROURKE.
63 v. Living HUMBARGER. She married Living OBERMYER.
64 vi. Living HUMBARGER. She married William BOEMER , Dr.. He was born 31 JAN in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
65 vii. Living HUMBARGER. He married Living BLISEL.


Descendant Register, Generation No. 6

54. Living OLSON (Martha HUMBARGER (Rau)6, Henry HUMBARGER (Rau)5, Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau)4, Heinrich HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1). She married George William OLSON. He was born 8 NOV 1929 in Dwight, Kansas. She married Francis HISER. He was born 1 MAY 1932 in Nortonville, Kansas, and died 10 MAY 1988 in Phoenix, Arizona.


Child of Living OLSON and George William OLSON is:
+ 66 i. Living OLSON.


Children of Living OLSON and Francis HISER are:
+ 67 i. Living HISER.
+ 68 ii. Living HISER.


55. Living OLSON (Martha HUMBARGER (Rau)6, Henry HUMBARGER (Rau)5, Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau)4, Heinrich HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1). He married Living EK.


Children of Living OLSON and Living EK are:
+ 69 i. Living OLSON.
+ 70 ii. Living OLSON.
+ 71 iii. Living OLSON.


56. Living OLSON (Martha HUMBARGER (Rau)6, Henry HUMBARGER (Rau)5, Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau)4, Heinrich HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1). She married Living MANNING.


Children of Living OLSON and Living MANNING are:
+ 72 i. Living MANNING.
73 ii. Living MANNING.
+ 74 iii. Living MANNING.


57. Living PETERSON (Elizabeth HUMBARGER (Rau)6, Henry HUMBARGER (Rau)5, Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau)4, Heinrich HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1). She married Living DIGHTON.


Children of Living PETERSON and Living DIGHTON are:
75 i. Living DIGHTON.
76 ii. Living DIGHTON.


58. Living PETERSON (Elizabeth HUMBARGER (Rau)6, Henry HUMBARGER (Rau)5, Philipp HAMBURGER (Rau)4, Heinrich HAMBURGER3, Philipp HAMBURGER2, Johannes HAMBURGER1). She married Living PALMER. She married Living MILBERT.


Child of Living PETERSON and Living PALMER is:
77 i. Living PALMER.


Child of Living PETERSON and Living MILBERT is:
78 i. Living MILBERT.




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